June 12, 2026 • 50 Minutes

Leadership Lessons from My Brother Jon, The Pastor

Guest: Jon Brown — Executive Pastor, Journey Church (Kenosha, WI) Guest Links: Instagram: @PJon | YouTube: JRNY Church

Jon Brown has spent 25 years at the same church, working his way up from youth pastor to executive pastor overseeing 36 staff pastors, 75% of whom he developed from a young age. In this episode, recorded in Italy, he breaks down the universal leadership principles that apply whether you're running a church, a roofing company, or a marketing agency: how to actually grow yourself before you grow others, why your competition should become your allies, how to handle the pressure of perfection when everyone expects you to have it together, and the Sabbath discipline that keeps high performers from burning out on the long haul.

You'll learn:

Why leading yourself is the hardest leadership job you'll ever have
How to build a personal growth plan that targets your actual blind spots
Windshield time: turning drive time into learning time with audiobooks
"If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go farther, go together"
How jealousy of competitors reveals your own insecurities (the Joseph Kellogg story)
Why you should reach out and encourage the person you're most jealous of
Treat people like they love you, and eventually they'll start to believe it
How to handle critics who question your motives and character
Why leaders don't get to have a bad day (chug the Red Bull in your truck)
Complain up, never down: why you need someone above you to vent to
If you don't heal what hurt you, you'll bleed on people who don't deserve it
John Maxwell's 5 levels of leadership: position, permission, production, people development, pinnacle
Why 25 years in one place creates compounding mastery and generational impact
The Sabbath principle: one day a week fully unplugged (and the auto-text that protects it)
Why hobbies and play make the other six days more effective

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